Comments on: Practical Missional Ecclesiology Workshop http://www.goodmanson.com/church/practical-missional-ecclesiology-workshop/ Church Technology, Internet Ministry & Church Planting Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:24:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Wrestling with the idea of church… « EmmausLife http://www.goodmanson.com/church/practical-missional-ecclesiology-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-208498 Wrestling with the idea of church… « EmmausLife Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:42:54 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=1319#comment-208498 [...] Wrestling with the idea of church… June 2, 2010 Matthew Hansen Leave a comment Go to comments So lately, many of you know, I’m wrestling with the idea of church…I have to be honest…I get straight up mad sometimes when I am setting around with a group of pastors and topics like: mood, settings, flow, method, model, etc, etc come up…gone are the days when some crazy freak could say something like, “hey, why don’t you eat my flesh and drink my blood…” Not sure that really set the mood or flow very well… I am getting more and more annoyed at, even in the missional church, now pastors better resemble managers, tacticians, and the like as opposed to lovers, prophets, and priests…Where are the days of leading a church in the manner of Ephesians 4:11 as opposed to those who rouse up a crowd in the arena of youth, singles, and married, based on personality tests, degrees, and skill sets, etc…What happened to the days when gathering around the Apostles teaching, communion and fellowship were enough and now we need the right music, the right speaker, the right children’s ministry …church is just too damn hard…and gives us a very false sense of success…to quote a secular author, the moment we begin to quantify we loose it’s depth…where did our CEO Ecclesiology even come from? What about a missional (truly missional) Ecclesiology… [...] [...] Wrestling with the idea of church… June 2, 2010 Matthew Hansen Leave a comment Go to comments So lately, many of you know, I’m wrestling with the idea of church…I have to be honest…I get straight up mad sometimes when I am setting around with a group of pastors and topics like: mood, settings, flow, method, model, etc, etc come up…gone are the days when some crazy freak could say something like, “hey, why don’t you eat my flesh and drink my blood…” Not sure that really set the mood or flow very well… I am getting more and more annoyed at, even in the missional church, now pastors better resemble managers, tacticians, and the like as opposed to lovers, prophets, and priests…Where are the days of leading a church in the manner of Ephesians 4:11 as opposed to those who rouse up a crowd in the arena of youth, singles, and married, based on personality tests, degrees, and skill sets, etc…What happened to the days when gathering around the Apostles teaching, communion and fellowship were enough and now we need the right music, the right speaker, the right children’s ministry …church is just too damn hard…and gives us a very false sense of success…to quote a secular author, the moment we begin to quantify we loose it’s depth…where did our CEO Ecclesiology even come from? What about a missional (truly missional) Ecclesiology… [...]

]]> By: Robert Campbell http://www.goodmanson.com/church/practical-missional-ecclesiology-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-208260 Robert Campbell Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:15:25 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=1319#comment-208260 Thanks for this...and all your work on triperspectivalism. It has been a great encouragement for our team, especially the kings who dont seem to understand their importance in the work of the church. Question. How would you suggest a pastor develop the skills of kings, priests, prophets so each can be better at exercising their gifts? Thanks for this…and all your work on triperspectivalism. It has been a great encouragement for our team, especially the kings who dont seem to understand their importance in the work of the church.

Question. How would you suggest a pastor develop the skills of kings, priests, prophets so each can be better at exercising their gifts?

]]> By: D. Goodmanson http://www.goodmanson.com/church/practical-missional-ecclesiology-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-208022 D. Goodmanson Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:49:02 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=1319#comment-208022 David also does that. There is no 'reason' why I do it this way, probably just because I see it as a counter-clockwise flow from the vision, to the motivation that flows out in our behavior. David also does that. There is no ‘reason’ why I do it this way, probably just because I see it as a counter-clockwise flow from the vision, to the motivation that flows out in our behavior.

]]> By: Gardner Gordon http://www.goodmanson.com/church/practical-missional-ecclesiology-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-208020 Gardner Gordon Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:07:50 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=1319#comment-208020 Drew, thanks for your work on this, incorporating and "working the angles" in practical, mission-directed, gospel-centered ways. Frame's work on perspectivalism has helped us to think out, live out and communicate the gospel in such rich ways. One question/comment (as one who suffers Frame-engrained-brain syndrome): Frame puts the existential lower right and situational lower left ... any reason why you have them flipped? I know it doesn't matter, it just messed with my kingly consistency meter. Drew, thanks for your work on this, incorporating and “working the angles” in practical, mission-directed, gospel-centered ways. Frame’s work on perspectivalism has helped us to think out, live out and communicate the gospel in such rich ways.

One question/comment (as one who suffers Frame-engrained-brain syndrome): Frame puts the existential lower right and situational lower left … any reason why you have them flipped? I know it doesn’t matter, it just messed with my kingly consistency meter.

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