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		<title>By: My escape from a high-control group &#171; Sojourn of a Soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>My escape from a high-control group &#171; Sojourn of a Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 15, 2010    by Bhaktin Kirsten   Last night I dreamed that I was back in the Messianic community and was trying to escape [...]</description>
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		<title>By: D. Goodmanson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/comment-page-2/#comment-200808</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Goodmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments have run on for 3 years now and at this time I&#039;m going to close them down.  Much of my post and the journey from this experience has led me to a new way of being the church, which I thank the 12 Tribes for being a part of that journey.  

The book I&#039;d recommend, is &lt;b&gt;Total Church&lt;/b&gt; if you are interested in how a community forms around the gospel to be the church.  That book in particular has had a lasting impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments have run on for 3 years now and at this time I&#8217;m going to close them down.  Much of my post and the journey from this experience has led me to a new way of being the church, which I thank the 12 Tribes for being a part of that journey.  </p>
<p>The book I&#8217;d recommend, is <b>Total Church</b> if you are interested in how a community forms around the gospel to be the church.  That book in particular has had a lasting impact.</p>
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		<title>By: hana</title>
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		<dc:creator>hana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really sad that the twelve tribes is not going to make it. Everyone wants to know what the truth is and what the meaning of life is.I don&#039;t think we will ever really figure that out.We just need to make the most out of what we do have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really sad that the twelve tribes is not going to make it. Everyone wants to know what the truth is and what the meaning of life is.I don&#8217;t think we will ever really figure that out.We just need to make the most out of what we do have.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a fellow believer and have been visiting a community in VA for the past month.  Your article is one of many that I&#039;ve read and the whole situation grieves the heart of God.  Jesus did live in community with his disciples and the church of Acts followed that pattern; but from what I&#039;ve gathered thus far, the Twelve Tribes are cult-like in practice.  

I&#039;ve been a follower of Christ for 11 years and have been a missionary in 3 countries, so I am no &quot;newbie&quot; to the Word or the Holy Spirit.  Recently I&#039;ve had multiple conversations with people not apart of T.T., but are Christians and there is a great thirst for more than what the church as we know it has offered.  I hear your heart, bro.  There are a lot of us that want to just follow God and we&#039;re looking for the &quot;more&quot; that is out there.   I&#039;m just trying to find what that is.  I want community and I want freedom in Christ.  I hate legalism, Jesus stood up against those in His days that were.  There are a lot more things to say, but I&#039;d like to talk with you.  So if you could e-mail me so we could start a dialog, I would really appreciate that.

Love your sister in Christ,
Kyera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fellow believer and have been visiting a community in VA for the past month.  Your article is one of many that I&#8217;ve read and the whole situation grieves the heart of God.  Jesus did live in community with his disciples and the church of Acts followed that pattern; but from what I&#8217;ve gathered thus far, the Twelve Tribes are cult-like in practice.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a follower of Christ for 11 years and have been a missionary in 3 countries, so I am no &#8220;newbie&#8221; to the Word or the Holy Spirit.  Recently I&#8217;ve had multiple conversations with people not apart of T.T., but are Christians and there is a great thirst for more than what the church as we know it has offered.  I hear your heart, bro.  There are a lot of us that want to just follow God and we&#8217;re looking for the &#8220;more&#8221; that is out there.   I&#8217;m just trying to find what that is.  I want community and I want freedom in Christ.  I hate legalism, Jesus stood up against those in His days that were.  There are a lot more things to say, but I&#8217;d like to talk with you.  So if you could e-mail me so we could start a dialog, I would really appreciate that.</p>
<p>Love your sister in Christ,<br />
Kyera</p>
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		<title>By: Azariah</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/comment-page-2/#comment-200765</link>
		<dc:creator>Azariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left the TT&#8217;s and did good. But it appears that you left God also according to the language you use. I&#8217;m sorry to see that. &#8220;there will be no one else to blame for it when you‚Äôre on your deathbed&#8221;.</p>
<p>Shalom</p>
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		<title>By: samie87b</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/comment-page-2/#comment-200742</link>
		<dc:creator>samie87b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, it took me forever to read through all this non-sense. I was born and raised in the Twelve Tribes and  my entire family (on my father&#039;s side) is part of the group. I left when I was eighteen after being kidnapped back a couple of times. However, now, as a matured adult, I have learned a lot about beliefs and personal choice. Growing up in the TTs, I didn&#039;t have any independence or individuality, but that is simply because that is the only way to maintain a community of that nature. When you go through something like that, you learn to appreciate freedom of choice and speech. Even though I have mostly lost my family due to my choice to leave the group, i have no regrets.  I have come to realize that every person has a brain and they can choose to live their life anyway they like. I don&#039;t feel bad for any one who has posted on this site saying how horrible their experience was with the TTs. It was their choice to join. Maybe next time they should think about something before they do it. As far as myself, I have nothing to say against the commune. They may affect others in a negative way but if you don&#039;t like it...LEAVE! It may be hard to leave for those who are weak willed but if you are that unhappy with your life and can&#039;t change it then you deserve to be unhappy. Don&#039;t give us that bull-shit that they wouldn&#039;t let you leave. This is America...even if you were born there, you still have a god given right to choose for yourself. Don&#039;t blame your misery on Elbert Spriggs or anyone else in that group. I was mistreated but only losers dwell on the past. Move on for Christsake!!!! You&#039;re free. Just let them be. Don&#039;t go around making everyone feel sorry for you because it doesn&#039;t work. Thats the wrong way to respond to things. 

I left three years ago and I haven&#039;t spoken to anyone in my family since. I&#039;m not wallowing in the mud complaining about how miserable my life is. No I&#039;m moving on and bettering myself. I could have gripped about how I had no opportunities because of the poor education I got as a child...no! I got my GED and enrolled in one of the best Universities in Massachusetts! I moved halfway across the country so that I could get the best career opportunity that was out here. Of course it has been hard. Hell- its been the most difficult thing I&#039;ve ever done...even more than walking away from my life, my family, everything I knew. 

This is what my entire childhood has taught me: Never let someone tell you that you can&#039;t do something! If anything, my childhood has made me a stronger person and given me a more tenacious attitude. So, to all of you   lazy ass losers who have posted those nasty complaints and lies...Get a life! You&#039;re worse off now then you were there. I suggest you make up for all the time you lost while waisting way in your misery! Let those who are now being drawn into the TT commune do the research for themselves instead of dumping all your sissy problems on them. And leave the dumb-ass losers living in the TTs alone. Remember that you&#039;re the only one who will have to live with the decisions you made during your lifetime and there will be no one else to blame for it when you&#039;re on your deathbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, it took me forever to read through all this non-sense. I was born and raised in the Twelve Tribes and  my entire family (on my father&#8217;s side) is part of the group. I left when I was eighteen after being kidnapped back a couple of times. However, now, as a matured adult, I have learned a lot about beliefs and personal choice. Growing up in the TTs, I didn&#8217;t have any independence or individuality, but that is simply because that is the only way to maintain a community of that nature. When you go through something like that, you learn to appreciate freedom of choice and speech. Even though I have mostly lost my family due to my choice to leave the group, i have no regrets.  I have come to realize that every person has a brain and they can choose to live their life anyway they like. I don&#8217;t feel bad for any one who has posted on this site saying how horrible their experience was with the TTs. It was their choice to join. Maybe next time they should think about something before they do it. As far as myself, I have nothing to say against the commune. They may affect others in a negative way but if you don&#8217;t like it&#8230;LEAVE! It may be hard to leave for those who are weak willed but if you are that unhappy with your life and can&#8217;t change it then you deserve to be unhappy. Don&#8217;t give us that bull-shit that they wouldn&#8217;t let you leave. This is America&#8230;even if you were born there, you still have a god given right to choose for yourself. Don&#8217;t blame your misery on Elbert Spriggs or anyone else in that group. I was mistreated but only losers dwell on the past. Move on for Christsake!!!! You&#8217;re free. Just let them be. Don&#8217;t go around making everyone feel sorry for you because it doesn&#8217;t work. Thats the wrong way to respond to things. </p>
<p>I left three years ago and I haven&#8217;t spoken to anyone in my family since. I&#8217;m not wallowing in the mud complaining about how miserable my life is. No I&#8217;m moving on and bettering myself. I could have gripped about how I had no opportunities because of the poor education I got as a child&#8230;no! I got my GED and enrolled in one of the best Universities in Massachusetts! I moved halfway across the country so that I could get the best career opportunity that was out here. Of course it has been hard. Hell- its been the most difficult thing I&#8217;ve ever done&#8230;even more than walking away from my life, my family, everything I knew. </p>
<p>This is what my entire childhood has taught me: Never let someone tell you that you can&#8217;t do something! If anything, my childhood has made me a stronger person and given me a more tenacious attitude. So, to all of you   lazy ass losers who have posted those nasty complaints and lies&#8230;Get a life! You&#8217;re worse off now then you were there. I suggest you make up for all the time you lost while waisting way in your misery! Let those who are now being drawn into the TT commune do the research for themselves instead of dumping all your sissy problems on them. And leave the dumb-ass losers living in the TTs alone. Remember that you&#8217;re the only one who will have to live with the decisions you made during your lifetime and there will be no one else to blame for it when you&#8217;re on your deathbed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just encountered a large group of the &quot;Twelve Tribes&quot;on the road in DC.  These people are one of the most demonically possessed groups I have ever seen!  There eyes are glazed over and they mock others.  Most of the members seemed to be outcasts of society, they must pick on the weakest ones in society....I heard they show up at Rainbow gatherings and spit out misrepresentations at all costs.  PLEASE anyone looking into this group....flee at all costs.  Your soul is at stake!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just encountered a large group of the &#8220;Twelve Tribes&#8221;on the road in DC.  These people are one of the most demonically possessed groups I have ever seen!  There eyes are glazed over and they mock others.  Most of the members seemed to be outcasts of society, they must pick on the weakest ones in society&#8230;.I heard they show up at Rainbow gatherings and spit out misrepresentations at all costs.  PLEASE anyone looking into this group&#8230;.flee at all costs.  Your soul is at stake!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonympus</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/comment-page-2/#comment-200526</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonympus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not, if you save him from a greater pain.
Iit is not pain, it  more itching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not, if you save him from a greater pain.<br />
Iit is not pain, it  more itching.</p>
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		<title>By: European Seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/comment-page-2/#comment-200525</link>
		<dc:creator>European Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shouldn&#039;t really say anything about child dicipline since I have no experience of it. I can neither speak against it nor for it. I was not diciplined and I have to regret a lot of wrong doings now. If those doings had anything to do with a lack of dicipline I cannot say. But inflicting pain on your child must be the most difficult thing for a parent to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shouldn&#8217;t really say anything about child dicipline since I have no experience of it. I can neither speak against it nor for it. I was not diciplined and I have to regret a lot of wrong doings now. If those doings had anything to do with a lack of dicipline I cannot say. But inflicting pain on your child must be the most difficult thing for a parent to do.</p>
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		<title>By: European Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>European Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see, anonymous, but did you as well leave the community? Ofcourse you need not answer to this, but you know that already. 

I have so many questions, but I am not going to make you tired by asking them all here. My son and I will be able to visit one of the communities soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see, anonymous, but did you as well leave the community? Ofcourse you need not answer to this, but you know that already. </p>
<p>I have so many questions, but I am not going to make you tired by asking them all here. My son and I will be able to visit one of the communities soon.</p>
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