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	<title>Comments on: Website Stolen</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203685</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that contacting the client that paid for website design is the way to go - point out to them the original site, show where it still says &quot;Denver Seminary.&quot;  

At this point showing the client that their web design firm not only stole a design, but stole the money they were paid to do the design and let the marketplace take its course is the way to go.  I would also suggest seeing if there is anything like the BBB in Argentina - there do not seem to be any links on the website design firm&#039;s page indicating membership in any trade organizations, otherwise that might be an avenue.  

They do have a portfolio listed - if the practice of lifting sites is part of their business model it&#039;s likely that other clients are also lifted - it depends on how much detective work you want to do - if you detect other lifted sites you could possibly inform the lifters.

Otherwise leave it at reporting to the client who paid for a hot website design.

It will be interesting to see their response - I hope it&#039;s not, &quot;you&#039;re a norteamericano, you&#039;re fair game.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that contacting the client that paid for website design is the way to go &#8211; point out to them the original site, show where it still says &#8220;Denver Seminary.&#8221;  </p>
<p>At this point showing the client that their web design firm not only stole a design, but stole the money they were paid to do the design and let the marketplace take its course is the way to go.  I would also suggest seeing if there is anything like the BBB in Argentina &#8211; there do not seem to be any links on the website design firm&#8217;s page indicating membership in any trade organizations, otherwise that might be an avenue.  </p>
<p>They do have a portfolio listed &#8211; if the practice of lifting sites is part of their business model it&#8217;s likely that other clients are also lifted &#8211; it depends on how much detective work you want to do &#8211; if you detect other lifted sites you could possibly inform the lifters.</p>
<p>Otherwise leave it at reporting to the client who paid for a hot website design.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see their response &#8211; I hope it&#8217;s not, &#8220;you&#8217;re a norteamericano, you&#8217;re fair game.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: john from cincinnati</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203682</link>
		<dc:creator>john from cincinnati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>line 104 in the source still says &quot;Welcome to Denver Seminary&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>line 104 in the source still says &#8220;Welcome to Denver Seminary&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: D. Goodmanson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203679</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Goodmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  With Ekklesia 360 but it was resolved: http://godbit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3404</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  With Ekklesia 360 but it was resolved: <a href="http://godbit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3404" rel="nofollow">http://godbit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3404</a></p>
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		<title>By: archshrk</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203678</link>
		<dc:creator>archshrk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t this happened before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t this happened before?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not dead, permanently incapacitated that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not dead, permanently incapacitated that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Goodmanson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203672</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Goodmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the crowdsourcing going on here.  osoman &amp; Tim we have done your suggestions, we&#039;ll see what happens!  

Jason - not sure on what you are suggesting....will people end up dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the crowdsourcing going on here.  osoman &#038; Tim we have done your suggestions, we&#8217;ll see what happens!  </p>
<p>Jason &#8211; not sure on what you are suggesting&#8230;.will people end up dead?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Chester</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203671</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you contact Viviana Rodr??guez Amoblamientos SA and tell them they were ripped off. They&#039;ve shelled out money for website development only for DataFizz to do a quick cut and paste job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you contact Viviana Rodr??guez Amoblamientos SA and tell them they were ripped off. They&#8217;ve shelled out money for website development only for DataFizz to do a quick cut and paste job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203670</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have friends in the SBS, it would be very quiet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have friends in the SBS, it would be very quiet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: osoman</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203669</link>
		<dc:creator>osoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company that stole it is from Chile. Why don&#039;t you contact the guys from FayerWayer.com and ask them to make it public in their country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company that stole it is from Chile. Why don&#8217;t you contact the guys from FayerWayer.com and ask them to make it public in their country.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Christopherson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/church-technology/website-stolen/comment-page-1/#comment-203668</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Christopherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice - if you disable CSS, it shows &quot;Denver Seminary&quot; twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice &#8211; if you disable CSS, it shows &#8220;Denver Seminary&#8221; twice.</p>
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