Comments on: The Gospel Awakening http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/ Church Planting, Technology & Culture Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:40:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: From the Ashes » Blog Archive » Welcome to the weekend http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-87920 From the Ashes » Blog Archive » Welcome to the weekend Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:17:31 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-87920 [...] Drew Goodmanson wrote about the three things he sees as changing the face of the church - the Bible as story, the Gospel as more than a ticket to heaven and a missional posture towards the culture the church lives in. [...] [...] Drew Goodmanson wrote about the three things he sees as changing the face of the church - the Bible as story, the Gospel as more than a ticket to heaven and a missional posture towards the culture the church lives in. [...]

]]> By: Stephen http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-87019 Stephen Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:01:57 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-87019 Great post. I always wondered why the reformers didn't have 'mission' as one of the hallmarks of a healthy church. Seeing the Bible as an unfolding story has rightly helped us to see 'mission' as the central thrust of what God is doing. All these changes are welcome. I just wonder what our 'blind spots' will be as we venture into this new territory? With this renewed interest in the ongoing transformation that takes place in the Christian's life could we possibly underplay the one off event that happens at the cross and at regeneration? Great post. I always wondered why the reformers didn’t have ‘mission’ as one of the hallmarks of a healthy church. Seeing the Bible as an unfolding story has rightly helped us to see ‘mission’ as the central thrust of what God is doing. All these changes are welcome. I just wonder what our ‘blind spots’ will be as we venture into this new territory? With this renewed interest in the ongoing transformation that takes place in the Christian’s life could we possibly underplay the one off event that happens at the cross and at regeneration?

]]> By: Nelmezzo » Blog Archive » Three on Theology #2 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86806 Nelmezzo » Blog Archive » Three on Theology #2 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:01:31 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86806 [...] Is a gospel awakening happening? Drew Goodmanson writes in a post that the recent Gospel Coalition conference (I was able to attend most of it) may be a sign of gospel awakening because it represents three shifts in thinking about the gospel by the Evangelical Center (referring to the center is my way of stating what Goodmanson is saying). First, a shift toward acknowledging scripture as normative narrative. Second, the shift to thinking of the gospel as bigger than a ticket to heaven. Third, the shift that the gospel requires a missional posture toward the world. I had appreciated those aspects of the gospel coalition conference without really thinking about them. Goodmanson’s post help me see their significance. I should add a caveat that a church seeking to be scripturally faithful 50 years ago was probably emphasizing these things in its own ways. But the way they are being said now is important and encouraging. Here are links to the Gospel Coalition foundational documents and audio and video. HT for Gospel Coalition documents: Steve McCoy [...] [...] Is a gospel awakening happening? Drew Goodmanson writes in a post that the recent Gospel Coalition conference (I was able to attend most of it) may be a sign of gospel awakening because it represents three shifts in thinking about the gospel by the Evangelical Center (referring to the center is my way of stating what Goodmanson is saying). First, a shift toward acknowledging scripture as normative narrative. Second, the shift to thinking of the gospel as bigger than a ticket to heaven. Third, the shift that the gospel requires a missional posture toward the world. I had appreciated those aspects of the gospel coalition conference without really thinking about them. Goodmanson’s post help me see their significance. I should add a caveat that a church seeking to be scripturally faithful 50 years ago was probably emphasizing these things in its own ways. But the way they are being said now is important and encouraging. Here are links to the Gospel Coalition foundational documents and audio and video. HT for Gospel Coalition documents: Steve McCoy [...]

]]> By: Mick Porter http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86782 Mick Porter Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:01:23 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86782 Drew, Great post - I just wanted to throw in a perspective from outside the USA. In Australia our whole culture was traditionally influenced by the UK, but in recent decades the influence has shifted to the USA. This applies to churches for sure; some of the really awful bestselling books are bestsellers here too. Must of this gospel centrality is beginning to influence the Australian landscape, but perhaps a bit more slowly. In our city there are small churches I know that are influenced heavily by Keller, Acts 29, Desiring God (all USA), and New Frontiers (UK). The Internet has opened up so much of this possibility. We are so much less isolated when we can watch the GC guys on video, access books through Amazon etc. Certainly in my neck of the woods we would never have come to grasp the whole gospel/mission thing without these kinds of resources - we've spent years having our minds progressively blown as we've come to know Christ more and more fully through the influence of so many thinkers that we would otherwise have been isolated from. Drew,

Great post - I just wanted to throw in a perspective from outside the USA.

In Australia our whole culture was traditionally influenced by the UK, but in recent decades the influence has shifted to the USA. This applies to churches for sure; some of the really awful bestselling books are bestsellers here too.

Must of this gospel centrality is beginning to influence the Australian landscape, but perhaps a bit more slowly. In our city there are small churches I know that are influenced heavily by Keller, Acts 29, Desiring God (all USA), and New Frontiers (UK).

The Internet has opened up so much of this possibility. We are so much less isolated when we can watch the GC guys on video, access books through Amazon etc. Certainly in my neck of the woods we would never have come to grasp the whole gospel/mission thing without these kinds of resources - we’ve spent years having our minds progressively blown as we’ve come to know Christ more and more fully through the influence of so many thinkers that we would otherwise have been isolated from.

]]> By: Christian Cryder http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86600 Christian Cryder Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:46:01 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86600 The Reformation listed three marks of the church: 1) preaching of the word, 2) sacraments, 3) discipline. I think the new gospel awakening suggests a 4th mark might be appropriate: mission. That is, a truly healthy church will be characterized by mission, where the believers go out of the church and into the world, and unbelievers in turn come out of the world and into the church. This going out and coming in is fundamentally incarnational - if we participate w/ unbelievers in the things of God that they love (city, art, beauty, community, justice), they will end up participating w/ us in the things of God that we love (worship, truth, fellowship). This participation is not contingent - we don't demand they change first and then participate; on the contrary, we meet them where they are and invite them as they are. We love them as Christ loved us (sinners first, saints later). This is the kind of thing we're working on here in Missoula, and its exciting to see it resonate with the unchurched folks we're meeting. The Reformation listed three marks of the church: 1) preaching of the word, 2) sacraments, 3) discipline.

I think the new gospel awakening suggests a 4th mark might be appropriate: mission.

That is, a truly healthy church will be characterized by mission, where the believers go out of the church and into the world, and unbelievers in turn come out of the world and into the church.

This going out and coming in is fundamentally incarnational - if we participate w/ unbelievers in the things of God that they love (city, art, beauty, community, justice), they will end up participating w/ us in the things of God that we love (worship, truth, fellowship). This participation is not contingent - we don’t demand they change first and then participate; on the contrary, we meet them where they are and invite them as they are. We love them as Christ loved us (sinners first, saints later).

This is the kind of thing we’re working on here in Missoula, and its exciting to see it resonate with the unchurched folks we’re meeting.

]]> By: D. Goodmanson http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86580 D. Goodmanson Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:26:22 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86580 Brad, I don't know if GC speaks about that. As the church we are limited in our participation in the Missio Dei to how God has designed us to point to and participate in the Kingdom as the church. I believe there is more talk about God's plan, but the church is not fully involved in all of God's activity. Yet, the church as central to God's plan. I touch on this more here: <a href="http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/" rel="nofollow">Missional - Missio Dei, Missionary or Mission</a>. Brad,

I don’t know if GC speaks about that. As the church we are limited in our participation in the Missio Dei to how God has designed us to point to and participate in the Kingdom as the church. I believe there is more talk about God’s plan, but the church is not fully involved in all of God’s activity. Yet, the church as central to God’s plan. I touch on this more here: Missional - Missio Dei, Missionary or Mission.

]]> By: brad brisco http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86560 brad brisco Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:33:08 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86560 Once again a great post! As we discuss the transformation that is taking place (I agree that there is one or perhaps that we are in an "in between" time) I think we need to add a fourth shift (and I don't know maybe GC speaks of this, I haven't read any of their stuff yet) that speaks of the Kingdom or God's activity in the world verses in the church. While it is related to thinking missionally, there is a shift from seeing the church as the primary location of God's activity in the world to seeing the world as the primary location of God's activity. This in turn raises the question of how the church is to act as missionary to the world. Once again a great post!

As we discuss the transformation that is taking place (I agree that there is one or perhaps that we are in an “in between” time) I think we need to add a fourth shift (and I don’t know maybe GC speaks of this, I haven’t read any of their stuff yet) that speaks of the Kingdom or God’s activity in the world verses in the church.

While it is related to thinking missionally, there is a shift from seeing the church as the primary location of God’s activity in the world to seeing the world as the primary location of God’s activity. This in turn raises the question of how the church is to act as missionary to the world.

]]> By: Interesting Links, and Articles | www.thedesocios.com http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86510 Interesting Links, and Articles | www.thedesocios.com Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:29:55 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86510 [...] Goodmanson ask whether or not the Gospel is Awakening. [...] [...] Goodmanson ask whether or not the Gospel is Awakening. [...]

]]> By: Matt Singley http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86450 Matt Singley Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:29:55 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86450 What a great summary of these three thoughts, thanks! What a great summary of these three thoughts, thanks!

]]> By: David Fairchild http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86445 David Fairchild Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:58 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/09/the-gospel-awakening/#comment-86445 Drew, Great thoughts. I have been reading all the docs from the GC site and have been pleasantly surprised. I think breaking these down into Norm/Sit/Exis is also helpful. Drew,
Great thoughts. I have been reading all the docs from the GC site and have been pleasantly surprised. I think breaking these down into Norm/Sit/Exis is also helpful.

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