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	<title>Comments on: Missional - Missio Dei, Missionary or Mission</title>
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		<title>By: The Hsu&#8217;s Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On vacation</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-95233</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hsu&#8217;s Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On vacation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Second, I ran across a nice article by Drew over at goodmanson.com on the &#8220;Missional&#8221; definition that we&#8217;ve been playing with here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Subversive Influence &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Missional: Now in Three Bold New Flavours!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subversive Influence &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Missional: Now in Three Bold New Flavours!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now, to be fair to Ed, all of this was sparked by a post by Drew Goodmanson, about which Ed was unhappy, since the paper isn&#8217;t published yet and we obviously are therefore not getting the straight goods on his views of the matter. As I commented on Bill&#8217;s blog, Ed may not be in the best spot to &#8220;correct&#8221; Alan et al on the usage of the word &#8220;missional,&#8221; but it&#8217;s possible (read: probable?) that it&#8217;ll be a soft &#8220;correction&#8221;, rather an extension of the word or explanation of how Ed sees it differently&#8230; based perhaps on a different approach to missiology, and not a fundamental difference of opinion in regard to practice or anything seriously substantive. We&#8217;ll wait and see &#8212; further dialogue is inevitable, welcome, and quite necessary. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, to be fair to Ed, all of this was sparked by a post by Drew Goodmanson, about which Ed was unhappy, since the paper isn&#8217;t published yet and we obviously are therefore not getting the straight goods on his views of the matter. As I commented on Bill&#8217;s blog, Ed may not be in the best spot to &#8220;correct&#8221; Alan et al on the usage of the word &#8220;missional,&#8221; but it&#8217;s possible (read: probable?) that it&#8217;ll be a soft &#8220;correction&#8221;, rather an extension of the word or explanation of how Ed sees it differently&#8230; based perhaps on a different approach to missiology, and not a fundamental difference of opinion in regard to practice or anything seriously substantive. We&#8217;ll wait and see &#8212; further dialogue is inevitable, welcome, and quite necessary. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LayGuy Eye &#124; July 11 2007 at layguy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-87056</link>
		<dc:creator>LayGuy Eye &#124; July 11 2007 at layguy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally off to Goodmanson - the dude they say you need a dictionary to decipher his blog with! Drew Goodmanson just came back from an Acts 29 Pastors retreat where a number of very interesting things occurred - in the EYE of the LayGuy! It seems as if Acts 29 is defining &#8220;missional&#8221; and distancing itself from the &#8220;other&#8221; missional group led by John Franke or Alan Roxburgh over at Allelon.org. Led by the input of brains the likes of Keller and Stetzer, Acts 29 is repositioning itself as a &#8220;movement instead of a network.&#8221; This may mean nothing to most of you. But to me this is exciting cause I love the work these guys are doing. Make sure to check out this little multimedia take by Goodmanson before you go - a sobering thought of the reality of church in the US. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally off to Goodmanson - the dude they say you need a dictionary to decipher his blog with! Drew Goodmanson just came back from an Acts 29 Pastors retreat where a number of very interesting things occurred - in the EYE of the LayGuy! It seems as if Acts 29 is defining &#8220;missional&#8221; and distancing itself from the &#8220;other&#8221; missional group led by John Franke or Alan Roxburgh over at Allelon.org. Led by the input of brains the likes of Keller and Stetzer, Acts 29 is repositioning itself as a &#8220;movement instead of a network.&#8221; This may mean nothing to most of you. But to me this is exciting cause I love the work these guys are doing. Make sure to check out this little multimedia take by Goodmanson before you go - a sobering thought of the reality of church in the US. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Missional - Missio Dei, Missionary or Mission &#124; By Farther Steps</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-84691</link>
		<dc:creator>Missional - Missio Dei, Missionary or Mission &#124; By Farther Steps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Author: D. Goodmanson [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mick Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-84101</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Drew,

I really appreciate those ideas for a sermon series - we may well do something very much like that after our Parables series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Drew,</p>
<p>I really appreciate those ideas for a sermon series - we may well do something very much like that after our Parables series.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Hits :: 07.03.07 &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Hits :: 07.03.07 &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * Drew Goodmanson talks about the distinction between missio dei, mission, missology in understaning what it means to be missional - all based off a talk by Ed Stetzer at an Acts 29 bootcamp.Speaking of missional, Scot McKnight talks about the word and why he uses it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] * Drew Goodmanson talks about the distinction between missio dei, mission, missology in understaning what it means to be missional - all based off a talk by Ed Stetzer at an Acts 29 bootcamp.Speaking of missional, Scot McKnight talks about the word and why he uses it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: D. Goodmanson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-83924</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Goodmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - Yes. It's a big subject.  Here's how a couple people I know approached it:

"I would suggest doing a topical in a book. You could do 7 sermons out of Acts. You could do some snapshots from Nehemiah. You could do a look at Jonah. You also could do a look at Joseph in Egypt, Jonah in Nineveh, Daniel in Babylon, Nehemiah in fallen Jerusalem, Paul w/Jews, Paul w/Gentiles, and of course one on Jesus incarnation as the first sermon to set up the series showing Him as missionary into lost culture and then tie every other sermon back to that sermon as your thesis."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike - Yes. It&#8217;s a big subject.  Here&#8217;s how a couple people I know approached it:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would suggest doing a topical in a book. You could do 7 sermons out of Acts. You could do some snapshots from Nehemiah. You could do a look at Jonah. You also could do a look at Joseph in Egypt, Jonah in Nineveh, Daniel in Babylon, Nehemiah in fallen Jerusalem, Paul w/Jews, Paul w/Gentiles, and of course one on Jesus incarnation as the first sermon to set up the series showing Him as missionary into lost culture and then tie every other sermon back to that sermon as your thesis.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-83696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,

Thanks for this thinking. We're trying to teach a 4-part series on mission this month; the first three parts on the mission of the Father, Son, and Spirit, and the fourth part on mercy/social justice as an integral component of mission.

I've found Newbigin really helpful (thus the trinitarian view), and also Goheen's article in "Reading Luke". Still really struggling to work out how to present this in topical sermon form though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>Thanks for this thinking. We&#8217;re trying to teach a 4-part series on mission this month; the first three parts on the mission of the Father, Son, and Spirit, and the fourth part on mercy/social justice as an integral component of mission.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found Newbigin really helpful (thus the trinitarian view), and also Goheen&#8217;s article in &#8220;Reading Luke&#8221;. Still really struggling to work out how to present this in topical sermon form though!</p>
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		<title>By: D. Goodmanson</title>
		<link>http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-07/01/missional-missio-dei-missionary-or-mission/#comment-83484</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Goodmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, in that case, I have a number of &lt;a href="http://www.goodmanson.com/articles/" rel="nofollow"&gt;triperspectival  articles on the article tab&lt;/a&gt;.  Or you can read some others at &lt;a href="http://www.pastorfairchild.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Fairchild's&lt;/a&gt; including a recent one on a triperspectival church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, in that case, I have a number of <a href="http://www.goodmanson.com/articles/" rel="nofollow">triperspectival  articles on the article tab</a>.  Or you can read some others at <a href="http://www.pastorfairchild.com/" rel="nofollow">David Fairchild&#8217;s</a> including a recent one on a triperspectival church.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Etherington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Etherington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Drew, I understand. Just trying to get my head around this triperspectival thing.

The church growth lit I've been reading is not very satisfying and the missional stuff I'm reading has not been satisfying either. Good to see that there is another take on it. As I understand it right now, I think the triperspectival approach is more of what I'm grasping at. Will keep digging. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Drew, I understand. Just trying to get my head around this triperspectival thing.</p>
<p>The church growth lit I&#8217;ve been reading is not very satisfying and the missional stuff I&#8217;m reading has not been satisfying either. Good to see that there is another take on it. As I understand it right now, I think the triperspectival approach is more of what I&#8217;m grasping at. Will keep digging. :)</p>
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