Comments on: Re-thinking Work - The Need for the Church to reclaim the Cultural Mandate http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/ Church Planting, Technology & Culture Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:19:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Daniel http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-100955 Daniel Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:08:13 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-100955 I couldn't understand some parts of this article inking Work - The Need for the Church to reclaim the Cultural Mandate, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting. I couldn’t understand some parts of this article inking Work - The Need for the Church to reclaim the Cultural Mandate, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

]]> By: D. Goodmanson http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-81898 D. Goodmanson Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:14:02 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-81898 Derek, while eliminating interest rates totally would bring shalom, it won't deal with the heart issues of people who would abuse this and therefore it would create alternative problems. This is the already/not yet tension we live in. vapor, good clarification, yes it's a worldview change. Derek, while eliminating interest rates totally would bring shalom, it won’t deal with the heart issues of people who would abuse this and therefore it would create alternative problems. This is the already/not yet tension we live in.

vapor, good clarification, yes it’s a worldview change.

]]> By: sacred vapor http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-80104 sacred vapor Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:04:05 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-80104 The only problem here is if churches try to transform the culture by making it their brand of 'christian,' much like the music industry has something called 'christian music.' In my opinion, this is just another form of the secular/sacred divide as you mentioned. I think what you are alluding to, which I would agree with, is to transform our work ethic from the foundational level (worldview), so that the mandate becomes the natural response to our culture. We don't define this as 'christian work' but 'work' which is recognizable as Christ-centered. I agree with Rob Bell when he says that 'christian' makes a great noun but a terrible adjective. vapor The only problem here is if churches try to transform the culture by making it their brand of ‘christian,’ much like the music industry has something called ‘christian music.’ In my opinion, this is just another form of the secular/sacred divide as you mentioned.

I think what you are alluding to, which I would agree with, is to transform our work ethic from the foundational level (worldview), so that the mandate becomes the natural response to our culture. We don’t define this as ‘christian work’ but ‘work’ which is recognizable as Christ-centered.

I agree with Rob Bell when he says that ‘christian’ makes a great noun but a terrible adjective.

vapor

]]> By: Derek Brown http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-79938 Derek Brown Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:33:25 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-06/26/re-thinking-work-the-need-for-the-church-to-reclaim-the-cultural-mandate/#comment-79938 Sounds great, and I completely agree with the Church missing the cultural mandate for the most part. We're starting to "get" art/music/media on the whole, but a lot of us still ignore the workplace. One question: what do we do about jobs where compromise with Scripture is inevitable? You touch on it with the merchant service account exec: wouldn't the thing to do to bring the most shalom/harmony be to reduce a debtor's interest rates to zero, in accordance with Scripture? Of course, reducing interest rates to zero is out of the question in his/her work situation. There are also worse scenarios where one's occupation requires compromise, I'm sure you can think of many. What balance should there be struck, if any in those kinds of situations? I've struggled with these questions for some time now. Great post, by the way. Sounds great, and I completely agree with the Church missing the cultural mandate for the most part. We’re starting to “get” art/music/media on the whole, but a lot of us still ignore the workplace. One question: what do we do about jobs where compromise with Scripture is inevitable? You touch on it with the merchant service account exec: wouldn’t the thing to do to bring the most shalom/harmony be to reduce a debtor’s interest rates to zero, in accordance with Scripture?

Of course, reducing interest rates to zero is out of the question in his/her work situation. There are also worse scenarios where one’s occupation requires compromise, I’m sure you can think of many. What balance should there be struck, if any in those kinds of situations? I’ve struggled with these questions for some time now. Great post, by the way.

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