Comments on: Gospel Reformed vs Being too Reformed

By: D. Goodmanson

D. Goodmanson — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:15:21 +0000

Mike - Reformed/Non-Reformed pastors will handle problems totally diff’t. They will not agree on the problems or the solutions.

By: Mike Edwards

Mike Edwards — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:37:13 +0000

Drew

I know the issue isn’t reformed theology. But it seemed the case you were making was for “getting along” with those who aren’t as ‘reformed’ or was I misunderstanding? I was asking how you felt boundaries should be drawn when it comes to reformed v. not reformed theology within a church community? Between members/elders or even between elders?

Why or why wouldn’t you think it advisable to have a reformed and non reformed pastor on staff or as elders?

By: Brandon Richards

Brandon Richards — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:37:49 +0000

I think I’m beginning to understand what you are saying now.

It was confusing to me that you were using prophet as one of the three classifications. The view I have of a prophet was someone who is the mouth piece of God. Someone like Jesus, who hears from the Father and speaks it to the people, and one of the offices such as Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, etc.

By: D. Goodmanson

D. Goodmanson — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:09:00 +0000

Mike - My case isn’t against reformed theology. Personally, without the doctrines of grace I believe too much damage would be caused to a church. Perspectives relate to John Frames’ tri- or multiperspectival views of Prophet/Priest/King.

Peavyhouse - That is my own quote. I just indented it, didn’t mean to quote myself.

By: peavyhouse

peavyhouse — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:35:00 +0000

I’ve read your blog for a while, but never commented. You have some great insights and I really enjoyed all I have read and thought through. Where did you get the first quote you have listed? Is it also from Frame? I think I am going to start using it with the seminary crowd in our current plant. It is perfect, but who do I credit?

By: Mike Edwards

Mike Edwards — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:34:44 +0000

Drew

I wonder how far to take that or how to contextualize it. For example, in a church context, do you have elders who are both reformed and not? In other words, can elders in one church hold different perspectives on this issue but be learning together in community and serve the mission of the gospel.

Why or why not?

By: D. Goodmanson

D. Goodmanson — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:46:47 +0000

For more on the prophet/normative read:
http://www.goodmanson.com/2007-05/31/triperspectivalism-multiperspectivalism-other-large-words/
http://www.pastorfairchild.com/2006-06/14/towards-a-christ-like-leadership-part-i/

Quote from one of the posts:

PROPHET strength - You are a visionary who has a burning desire to ‘preach the word of God’. You love to learn, read, study God’s Word and teach/preach it to the people. You see the normative standards declared by scripture and want all humanity to see this as well.

PROPHET weakness - A visionary leading people without a plan is going for a walk by themselves. As mentioned in this post, a Prophet can preach ‘Christ-centered‘ (norm, information) rather than ‘gospel-centered‘ messages. You can preach Christ and crush your people with the news, law and perfection of Christ.

By: Brandon Richards

Brandon Richards — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:41:15 +0000

Those are some quality statements. I really believe you are correct and Christian’s are too quick to beat their brothers and sisters down rather than bear their burdens with them. I’m interested in your statement, “believe that those who come to the reformed position tend to be prophets. Prophets can become doctrine-focused/Normative”.

I’m not sure I follow that statement exactly. Can you explain?