Comments on: Is the Twelve Tribes a Cult? http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/ Church Planting, Technology & Culture Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:18:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kyera http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200771 Kyera Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:33:19 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200771 I'm a fellow believer and have been visiting a community in VA for the past month. Your article is one of many that I've read and the whole situation grieves the heart of God. Jesus did live in community with his disciples and the church of Acts followed that pattern; but from what I've gathered thus far, the Twelve Tribes are cult-like in practice. I've been a follower of Christ for 11 years and have been a missionary in 3 countries, so I am no "newbie" to the Word or the Holy Spirit. Recently I've had multiple conversations with people not apart of T.T., but are Christians and there is a great thirst for more than what the church as we know it has offered. I hear your heart, bro. There are a lot of us that want to just follow God and we're looking for the "more" that is out there. I'm just trying to find what that is. I want community and I want freedom in Christ. I hate legalism, Jesus stood up against those in His days that were. There are a lot more things to say, but I'd like to talk with you. So if you could e-mail me so we could start a dialog, I would really appreciate that. Love your sister in Christ, Kyera I’m a fellow believer and have been visiting a community in VA for the past month. Your article is one of many that I’ve read and the whole situation grieves the heart of God. Jesus did live in community with his disciples and the church of Acts followed that pattern; but from what I’ve gathered thus far, the Twelve Tribes are cult-like in practice.

I’ve been a follower of Christ for 11 years and have been a missionary in 3 countries, so I am no “newbie” to the Word or the Holy Spirit. Recently I’ve had multiple conversations with people not apart of T.T., but are Christians and there is a great thirst for more than what the church as we know it has offered. I hear your heart, bro. There are a lot of us that want to just follow God and we’re looking for the “more” that is out there. I’m just trying to find what that is. I want community and I want freedom in Christ. I hate legalism, Jesus stood up against those in His days that were. There are a lot more things to say, but I’d like to talk with you. So if you could e-mail me so we could start a dialog, I would really appreciate that.

Love your sister in Christ,
Kyera

]]> By: Azariah http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200765 Azariah Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:19:39 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200765 You left the TT's and did good. But it appears that you left God also according to the language you use. I'm sorry to see that. "there will be no one else to blame for it when you’re on your deathbed". Shalom You left the TT’s and did good. But it appears that you left God also according to the language you use. I’m sorry to see that. “there will be no one else to blame for it when you’re on your deathbed”.

Shalom

]]> By: samie87b http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200742 samie87b Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:35:29 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200742 First of all, it took me forever to read through all this non-sense. I was born and raised in the Twelve Tribes and my entire family (on my father's side) is part of the group. I left when I was eighteen after being kidnapped back a couple of times. However, now, as a matured adult, I have learned a lot about beliefs and personal choice. Growing up in the TTs, I didn't have any independence or individuality, but that is simply because that is the only way to maintain a community of that nature. When you go through something like that, you learn to appreciate freedom of choice and speech. Even though I have mostly lost my family due to my choice to leave the group, i have no regrets. I have come to realize that every person has a brain and they can choose to live their life anyway they like. I don't feel bad for any one who has posted on this site saying how horrible their experience was with the TTs. It was their choice to join. Maybe next time they should think about something before they do it. As far as myself, I have nothing to say against the commune. They may affect others in a negative way but if you don't like it...LEAVE! It may be hard to leave for those who are weak willed but if you are that unhappy with your life and can't change it then you deserve to be unhappy. Don't give us that bull-shit that they wouldn't let you leave. This is America...even if you were born there, you still have a god given right to choose for yourself. Don't blame your misery on Elbert Spriggs or anyone else in that group. I was mistreated but only losers dwell on the past. Move on for Christsake!!!! You're free. Just let them be. Don't go around making everyone feel sorry for you because it doesn't work. Thats the wrong way to respond to things. I left three years ago and I haven't spoken to anyone in my family since. I'm not wallowing in the mud complaining about how miserable my life is. No I'm moving on and bettering myself. I could have gripped about how I had no opportunities because of the poor education I got as a child...no! I got my GED and enrolled in one of the best Universities in Massachusetts! I moved halfway across the country so that I could get the best career opportunity that was out here. Of course it has been hard. Hell- its been the most difficult thing I've ever done...even more than walking away from my life, my family, everything I knew. This is what my entire childhood has taught me: Never let someone tell you that you can't do something! If anything, my childhood has made me a stronger person and given me a more tenacious attitude. So, to all of you lazy ass losers who have posted those nasty complaints and lies...Get a life! You're worse off now then you were there. I suggest you make up for all the time you lost while waisting way in your misery! Let those who are now being drawn into the TT commune do the research for themselves instead of dumping all your sissy problems on them. And leave the dumb-ass losers living in the TTs alone. Remember that you're the only one who will have to live with the decisions you made during your lifetime and there will be no one else to blame for it when you're on your deathbed. First of all, it took me forever to read through all this non-sense. I was born and raised in the Twelve Tribes and my entire family (on my father’s side) is part of the group. I left when I was eighteen after being kidnapped back a couple of times. However, now, as a matured adult, I have learned a lot about beliefs and personal choice. Growing up in the TTs, I didn’t have any independence or individuality, but that is simply because that is the only way to maintain a community of that nature. When you go through something like that, you learn to appreciate freedom of choice and speech. Even though I have mostly lost my family due to my choice to leave the group, i have no regrets. I have come to realize that every person has a brain and they can choose to live their life anyway they like. I don’t feel bad for any one who has posted on this site saying how horrible their experience was with the TTs. It was their choice to join. Maybe next time they should think about something before they do it. As far as myself, I have nothing to say against the commune. They may affect others in a negative way but if you don’t like it…LEAVE! It may be hard to leave for those who are weak willed but if you are that unhappy with your life and can’t change it then you deserve to be unhappy. Don’t give us that bull-shit that they wouldn’t let you leave. This is America…even if you were born there, you still have a god given right to choose for yourself. Don’t blame your misery on Elbert Spriggs or anyone else in that group. I was mistreated but only losers dwell on the past. Move on for Christsake!!!! You’re free. Just let them be. Don’t go around making everyone feel sorry for you because it doesn’t work. Thats the wrong way to respond to things.

I left three years ago and I haven’t spoken to anyone in my family since. I’m not wallowing in the mud complaining about how miserable my life is. No I’m moving on and bettering myself. I could have gripped about how I had no opportunities because of the poor education I got as a child…no! I got my GED and enrolled in one of the best Universities in Massachusetts! I moved halfway across the country so that I could get the best career opportunity that was out here. Of course it has been hard. Hell- its been the most difficult thing I’ve ever done…even more than walking away from my life, my family, everything I knew.

This is what my entire childhood has taught me: Never let someone tell you that you can’t do something! If anything, my childhood has made me a stronger person and given me a more tenacious attitude. So, to all of you lazy ass losers who have posted those nasty complaints and lies…Get a life! You’re worse off now then you were there. I suggest you make up for all the time you lost while waisting way in your misery! Let those who are now being drawn into the TT commune do the research for themselves instead of dumping all your sissy problems on them. And leave the dumb-ass losers living in the TTs alone. Remember that you’re the only one who will have to live with the decisions you made during your lifetime and there will be no one else to blame for it when you’re on your deathbed.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200583 Kelly Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:04:04 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200583 I just encountered a large group of the "Twelve Tribes"on the road in DC. These people are one of the most demonically possessed groups I have ever seen! There eyes are glazed over and they mock others. Most of the members seemed to be outcasts of society, they must pick on the weakest ones in society....I heard they show up at Rainbow gatherings and spit out misrepresentations at all costs. PLEASE anyone looking into this group....flee at all costs. Your soul is at stake!!! I just encountered a large group of the “Twelve Tribes”on the road in DC. These people are one of the most demonically possessed groups I have ever seen! There eyes are glazed over and they mock others. Most of the members seemed to be outcasts of society, they must pick on the weakest ones in society….I heard they show up at Rainbow gatherings and spit out misrepresentations at all costs. PLEASE anyone looking into this group….flee at all costs. Your soul is at stake!!!

]]> By: Anonympus http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200526 Anonympus Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:43:08 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200526 Not, if you save him from a greater pain. Iit is not pain, it more itching. Not, if you save him from a greater pain.
Iit is not pain, it more itching.

]]> By: European Seeker http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200525 European Seeker Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:30:59 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200525 I shouldn't really say anything about child dicipline since I have no experience of it. I can neither speak against it nor for it. I was not diciplined and I have to regret a lot of wrong doings now. If those doings had anything to do with a lack of dicipline I cannot say. But inflicting pain on your child must be the most difficult thing for a parent to do. I shouldn’t really say anything about child dicipline since I have no experience of it. I can neither speak against it nor for it. I was not diciplined and I have to regret a lot of wrong doings now. If those doings had anything to do with a lack of dicipline I cannot say. But inflicting pain on your child must be the most difficult thing for a parent to do.

]]> By: European Seeker http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200511 European Seeker Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:15:03 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200511 I see, anonymous, but did you as well leave the community? Ofcourse you need not answer to this, but you know that already. I have so many questions, but I am not going to make you tired by asking them all here. My son and I will be able to visit one of the communities soon. I see, anonymous, but did you as well leave the community? Ofcourse you need not answer to this, but you know that already.

I have so many questions, but I am not going to make you tired by asking them all here. My son and I will be able to visit one of the communities soon.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200507 anonymous Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:57:47 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200507 I can see by your writting that you are very wise. It is very true what you say. I mean anonymous by anon, but it is not me who is being asked why left the community. I have choose to be anonymous in this forum I can see by your writting that you are very wise. It is very true what you say.

I mean anonymous by anon, but it is not me who is being asked why left the community.

I have choose to be anonymous in this forum

]]> By: European Seeker http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200502 European Seeker Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:12:54 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200502 Thank you for replying anon! It seems you may be a trustworthy sorce of information, and I feel better about my plans to see them now. I have seen a lot of critical information about the community, about corruption and so on, but I am reasoning that even if that exists within the community I doubt it is in such enormous extent as out here. All fruit needs time to ripe. If what they say about abuse is even true, it seems to be limited to single cases, and the whole community cannot be held responsible for that. I saw you were asked about why you and your wife left the community, and I too am interested in knowing the reasons. Thank you for replying anon! It seems you may be a trustworthy sorce of information, and I feel better about my plans to see them now. I have seen a lot of critical information about the community, about corruption and so on, but I am reasoning that even if that exists within the community I doubt it is in such enormous extent as out here. All fruit needs time to ripe. If what they say about abuse is even true, it seems to be limited to single cases, and the whole community cannot be held responsible for that.

I saw you were asked about why you and your wife left the community, and I too am interested in knowing the reasons.

]]> By: anon http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/#comment-200501 anon Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:21:21 +0000 http://www.goodmanson.com/?p=285#comment-200501 For sure they will not force you to discipline your child, and for sure they will not do it themselves. They will not tell you about how they displine their children, except if you are really interested. For sure they will not force you to discipline your child, and for sure they will not do it themselves. They will not tell you about how they displine their children, except if you are really interested.

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