Comments on: Adbusters “Are you Ready for the Revolution?”

By: D. Goodmanson

D. Goodmanson — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:10:12 +0000

The questions that I asked were ones my editor requested me to ask. “Now, do you all…” again, I can’t speak for ‘all’. I can say that what I have read from Grenz, from his session and from our conversation after I “really see him as a positive figure.”

Jeremy, sounds like you’ve had some bad person experiences with conservative elder boards. We (Kaleo and most a29 churches) are missionally minded and reformed theologically. There are a lot of particulars that most reformed churches I know get hung on. Most of the church planters are guys in their late 20’s and early 30’s who want to speak to the culture they are in. Our desire is to major on the good news of the Kingdom of God not things we should hold loosely (ie. eschatology, believers vs. baby baptism, and all the other great reformed debates).

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:45:18 +0000

(This is the guy who asked the conservative vs. post-conservative question again.) C’mon, dude, you totally dodged my question. Yeah, OK, you want to be friends with God. Great. But let get a little more concrete: I see you attended the emergent convention and you had some positive things to say about Stan Grenz. Now, do you all (Kaleo, Acts 29) really see Grenz as a positive figure? Because if you were to put the question to, say, your boy John Piper or JI Packer or some other conservative Reformed theologian, he would have nothing but criticism for Grenz. See, for example, the new book out, Reclaiming the Center, where DA Carson, Jeremy Taylor and others tear Grenz, McLaren and the postconservative movement to shreds. I’m not trying to box you guys in. I’m just trying to get to the bottom of your theology. All of this questioning is coming out of my personal experience where I am trying to (cautiously) bring the best of the emergent movement into my own church and being shut down–literally run out of my job–by a conservative elder board that doesn’t understand me. Acts 29 seems to embody where I’m coming from theologically, missionally, etc. but I can’t quite tell.

By: Joshua

Joshua — Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:27:02 +0000

It’s very interesting to see a christian review of Adbusters be favorable. I always loved reading it, yet thought the majority of my christian friends would think it was evil in some way. I don’t think people realize how closely certain aspects of activist culture can be to true christian responses to world problems. i like it.

By: D. Goodmanson

D. Goodmanson — Sun, 30 Jan 2005 01:14:33 +0000

I can’t speak for everyone in Acts 29, it is a big group. Certainly there are some very public figures that you can read their own thoughts (Driscoll - Radical Reformission, Miller - Blue Like Jazz, etc., McKinley - Jesus in the Margins, Seay - Gospel According to Tony Soprano, and the list goes on) I guess I’d say, we (Kaleo) desire to be theologically rooted and missiologically minded. We want to be radical in how we engage, dialouge with and speak to the culture but in doing so we want to speak about Jesus as revealed in the Bible. That Jesus was a friend of sinners, loved the lost and preached about establishing a Kingdom. I know this because I was once the lost, I’ve experienced God’s forgiveness and for that I’m eternally thankful. Btw- I’m glad you can’t box us in. I don’t really think we are conservative nor post-conservative or anything else. We just want to see people become friends with God. Hope that helps.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:50:54 +0000

This is not so much a comment about this post as a general question. I have visited the websites and blogs of several folks connected with the Acts 29 organization now: kaleo, ecclesia houston, mars hill seattle, and I can’t quite put my finger on your guys’ ecclesiology. Everyone seems to have a penchant for reading Piper books and as far as as can tell for his view on women in ministry as well, but you also seem to be really pushing the envelope in terms of cultural relevance, i.e., everybody’s watching Fight Club and nobody is saying anything about the gratuitous sex scenes. So what gives? Are you guys conservatives in hip sheep’s clothing or is there some truly “emergent” or post-conservative thought and theology going on?

By: Soul Disclosure

Soul Disclosure — Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:23:09 +0000

Interesting post from Noel

Noel had a link to another blog entry that I found interesting. I’ve trackbacked it here… One image struck me though, not sure why……

By: ryan sharp

ryan sharp — Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:58:57 +0000

Dig. Nice blog here.

Sure man, just email me sometime after the middle of the week. Would be cool to chat.

Ciao,
Ryan

By: NoelHeikkinen.com

NoelHeikkinen.com — Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:26:25 +0000

Adbusters

{ MOOD: Thoughtful | ITUNES: ‘Whole Lot Different” - Charlie Peacock } I am surfing around, minding my own business, thinking about the fact that I need to get working when I run across this blog entry that contains this…